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Whether we like it or not, our legacy as designers is ugly. We\'re largely responsible for fueling a culture of consumption.

Eric Karjaluoto - smashLAB
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Given 2009-03-16
Cupidity by ~error-message The suggester says: ''I like the piece because it has a great message. He expressed it pretty great, with the garbage feeling, the old paper texture in the background, the illustrated garbage bin, and the "unfinished" typography.'' ( Suggested by AagaardDS and Featured by Sander-Seto )
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romyta Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
so true... so true
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
yep . . . the truth is cold.
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Element-X- Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
For the long months I've been dormant on this site, I quickly go over the hudreds of deviations that have been piling up in my messages. Surely enough I find this piece to stick out like a sore thumb in my inbox, being one of the only typographic pieces in my watch list.

I recall your last work which I believe also got a DD 'The Message' in which you used quarkXpress in a time constraint. You've improved a lot since then from what I see and although I had a lot to say about your last DD I didn't fav it due to the flaws which I personally found a tad overwhealming. I'm certainly glad to see that you've been experimenting a lot with type and creating this image as a result.

Your concept of strips of paper with text was tastefully done as well as your choice of type (or type treatment). The combination of this with the texture and trash can illutration gives it a lot of depth which I admire most about this typographic piece rather than it just being a flat type design'. Personally I also think the flush right type aligned with the can was a nice touch, a very rare occurance in pieces not related to products. To top it all off you based this design on a very thought provoking statement which even I can relate to as a graphic design student, seeing as I've been questioning myself lately as to what kind of impact I'll have in the design world. Overall this piece is nearly flawless, about the only thing I notice that might need adjustment is the overlayed crumpled texture, though invisible to the untrained eye, the folds from the background actually blend with that of the strips of paper, a little masking around those areas might not be a bad idea. Like I said its hardly worth mentioning since it doesn't hinder the design or the message at all I just like it when people put a lot of attention to their work even in the smallest of details, in general doing so really tends to push an image to the next level even if it seems unnoticable.

Overall this is a very powerful piece which was well executed and I believe fully deserves the DD feature. Congratulations.
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
Its comments like these that make it all worth it. Not only am I honored by your words, I am absolutely astonished by the clarity of your memory pertaining to my first DD. Knowing that I've earned the respect of my peers fills my heart with glee and determination.

I too have been a victim of dormancy on this site. I was kind of going through an inspiration drought which ultimately lead to my absence, however that dry spell is over. I have a lot to prove to myself as a designer and I am more then happy to quantum my growth via deviantART, flickr, Bēhance Network, etc. It feels good to be plagued with inspiration again.

One of my class assignments required me to create a composition using a quote. After I stumbled upon this one (in a computer arts project magazine issue #119), I knew that was it. I wanted to make the piece as powerful as possible. It wasn't that hard to do since that message in itself holds an incredible amount of weight. Most of my work consist of relaying a message so that everyone can take something away from it, whether good or bad. So you can image how fun this was for me to compose.

As of late, I've been experimenting a lot with my designs do to getting over my fear of photoshop. It use to scare the crap out of my because it wasn't anything like illustrator. But now we get along just fine. I'm not as good as I want to be yet . . . but I'll get there. For example that viper you created out of water was SICK!

I really appreciate your comment. we'll speak again soon.
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Element-X- Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, my issue with illustrator is like yours with photoshop. I've barely scratched the surface of its capabilities and one day I hope to fully tap into its potential. About the only thing I use illustrator for these days is for type and live trace (because I fail, lol). Photoshop's a snap for me because I've been playing with it for nearly 7 years now, theres at least 3 different ways to achieve the same thing. Its all about knowing the tools and from there you have to decide on creative solutions to build whatever vision you may have in your mind. I find a lot of people's issue with photoshop is the use of filters, some people feel you shouldn't touch them over the fear of making your image look 'cheesy' but the more common case is most people use too many in its raw form which either causes images to look chaotic or simply gives it a cheesy look. Knowing what each function does is half the battle of photoshop, the other half is knowing how you're going to apply these effects to complete a desired effect. When dealing with photomanipulation its really all about subtlety, knowing what to add and just how much is key. I think this is why I love photoshop, the construction of an image is like a puzzle and you have to figure out how to put the pieces together.

Anyway, best of luck with your work and hopefully you'll be seeing some new stuff from me as well.
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
the pen tool and pathfinder is the heart of illustrator. If you learn how to use those tools, you will become fundamentally strong in illustrator. the rest is history. All you would have to do beyond that is apply your photoshop knowledge and you're good to go. the pen tool is gonna take some time to master. it tends to act a little wild so you have to learn its behaviors. but once you fully understand it . . . its dangerous. pathfinder is like a cookie cutter . . . use it to add/subtract shapes to get the desired shape you want to create. if you understand graphic symbolism (making logos that can read well while reduced to the size of a dime,etc) then you know everything under the sun can be made when represented with the right shape.

live trace blows dude . . . only use it when you don't have a choice.

the eraser tool is gods gift to illustrator CS3. you'll be able to make quick work of anything with that tool. hold down option/ctrl and you can make a square that will erase any and everything.

the alignment tool is great too. its much more sophisticated then it is in photoshop (or I just don't really know how to use the one in photoshop).

mesh tool and the blend tool is when you're playing with the big boys. when used correctly you can create some insane effects. I'm not even close to mastering the mesh tool but I will some day.


hopefully I helped . . . and I'm definitely anticipating your next piece.
maybe you can show me some things.

thanks for your help.
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Element-X- Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I've fully mastered the pen tool, its essentially the same in photoshop except with extra flexibility in Illustrator (if you don't know how to use the pen tool to extract a model from the background in PS, you're essentially fucked). The pathfinder is a tad tricky, I've only used it to cut out bits and pieces when designing a logo but I haven't had the time to fully explore its capabilities. I usually rely on tracing hand drawn elements if I were to do anything in illustrator. As far as live trace goes, if I ever used it to try and get an accurate vector out of something I'd probably shoot myself first. I've only really used it in relation to grunge themed stuff, specifically rock posters which I had to design as an assignment. I'll agree that live trace is weak but even that has its creative uses. Mesh tool and blend is certainly one of those things I'm afraid to touch. I use blend tool sometimes to blend in lines and add specific steps or create gradients as a base for smoke effects, but essentially I'm still 'thinking in photoshop' as I like to say, and its a wall I'm trying to break down.

Thanks for the watch by the way, I'll try not to disappoint. :D
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2009
yeah man hopefully we can learn a lot from each other.
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InCOUM Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009  Professional Interface Designer
it's our fault & pleasure =)!
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
definitely
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InCOUM Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2009  Professional Interface Designer
i know ^^
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Sakuyuki Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
and to think I want a career in design :)
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
I encourage you to become a designer. don't let anything stop you. use this message as a means of change and awareness.
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Sakuyuki Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2009
Thankyou, I couldn't imagine doing anything else with my life!
Our teachers are very wary of our impact on the planet and encourage us to steer our clients towards better solutions
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dominicansrule93 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
This thought is what is actually keeping me from becoming an industrial designer... Not any other art jobs out there though...
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
don't let this message become a hinderance. I encourage you to become the industrial designer, if indeed that's were you passion exists.

learn all the rules and then break them. make the change. you're more powerful than you know.
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dominicansrule93 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009
thanks. im just not sure how it will work out since its a very competitive field and theres not many jobs from what ive heard
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2009
it's competitive everywhere . . . you just gotta do what chu gotta do
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dominicansrule93 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2009
true. i guess ill look into it. thanks
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
remember . . . if it's difficult that means you're doing it right.
winners do what losers won't.

you're opposition doesn't last as long as your passion.
sooner or later you'll be amongst the last ones standing.
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dominicansrule93 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
thats really good advice. ive always wanted to be something big
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2009
go for it! . . . don't hold back
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TheAL Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thanks
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chatters Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
Amazing and so true.
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thank you very much.
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LiDiL Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
nicely excuted. :+fav:
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thank you
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bcatt Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
Very nicely put together & of course, a great message.
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thanks a lot . . . I appreciate it.
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Buttercookie Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
great message!!
this thought also brought me to reconsider my further education.
serving entertainment and consumption !? – aren't there much more usefull things to do?
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
don't let this message discourage you. I think the originator of this quote meant to increase awareness.

go where ever your passion takes you . . . then make a change.
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aoigetsu Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009   Interface Designer
that's been on the back of my mind ever since the very first day of my design degree...
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
it is definitely a harsh reality, especially when you're trying to make a living.

but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way.
designers have a lot of power.
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aoigetsu Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009   Interface Designer
It's like my age old dilemma. Everybody has a fare traded bio chocolate bar out there. Yet, nobody had the sense to make one of them peanut-free. So here I am, wearing my cruelty free t-shirt, drinking fair trade coffee but eating a Nestle bar some child suffered for just because, well, I'd like to survive my chocolate fix.

I can stop eating chocolate but I can't stop designing. I'd love to make ethical design but in the end, we may ask people to consume better but we still ask them to consume.

This will take a lot of effort from all of us, and a lot of time. But I'm game.
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009
that's what I like to hear . . . I'm far from perfect myself but at least my conscious is now equipped with the reality that is followed with cupidity.

your words provide comfort . . . for I know that I'm not alone.
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batracien333 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
nice work :) that's true man ...
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thank you . . . this is something that we have to change one way or another.
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batracien333 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009
yeah ! step by step, one person after one other ;)
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2009
indeed
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mugshotpro Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
good word:thumbsup:
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
I appreciate that.
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IOFFE Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
OK
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thanks for your time.
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Lord-Joey Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009
I love it!
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
thanks!

you have my gratitude.
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Lord-Joey Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009
You're welcome.
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animecrazedfool Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2009   Photographer
I like your message here, very true, very true.
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error-message Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009
indeed it is very true . . . thanks for your time.
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animecrazedfool Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009   Photographer
Your welcome.
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